Fred, How can I get Salvation if I don't know about the real God who cursed, tortured and murdered even little babies and most of creation, and will torture all those who do not believe forever in Hellfire?
Is this what you meant?
Cliff Jackson
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by riz inhi there, cliff.. nice to have you with us.
i've noticed on a few threads you've been asking if anyone here is a jw.
i think you will find that you will get better results if you ask specific questions.
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What are 5 major beliefs in the JW religion?
by Law inwhat are 5 major beliefs in the jw religion?
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Cliff Jackson
""Ted Jaracz today is 'God's' prime mouthpiece. He has manipulated himself into position as the most powerful -- not necessarily respected -- GB member by virtue of his strong personality and absolute intolerance of contrary opinions. Bethelites often call him "The Boss". In certain Bethel circles he is hated with a passion."
Does this mean that the JWs no longer have a president? I have lost touch (lack of interest!)
Can or will the GB no longer disf'p people like Ted?
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by riz inhi there, cliff.. nice to have you with us.
i've noticed on a few threads you've been asking if anyone here is a jw.
i think you will find that you will get better results if you ask specific questions.
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Thanks. I am a bit leery of exposing my past history with the JWs. If you were a JW, I would just ask one thing: What has Jesus done about the false prophecies by the WTB&TS since He has been directing it since 1914?
I was told I had to accept that the WTS was God's "Faithful Servant" on earth. Why should I have to "wait till the light gets brighter," and "it comes out in the Watchtower?" I have told many JWs (and Brooklyn) as did Ray Franz, that 1975 was incorrect. They said it didn't matter; I had to wait for the WT to correct this!
Any JWs want to take this?
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I got my nerve up, gonna try this again!
by LostMyReligion ini first posted to this board as "truman" about 2 months ago.
it was a time of deep depression, confusion, fear, and paranoia for me, as i had just 3 weeks before discovered that everything i had believed for 27 years was only a pipe dream.. everyone was very welcoming, but after only a few posts, i got so afraid i had to stop.
i was fearful of revealing too much, being somehow discovered, and of the possibility of saying the wrong thing, incurring the ire of my betters here.
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<<One other resourse that I like that Jang didn't mention on Yahoo! is the Yahoo! Chat. There are both hardcore ex-ers and softer "recovery" oriented ones.
I highly recommend it. Tell them Slip sent you.>>
The problem with most all of these sites is that no JW will ever post there. Try www.about.com forums and look for Xatheist. He is a proud JW from Houston and WILL answer your questions until you hit him with 1914 etc.
You will enjoy about.com
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Adam to be Resurrected - Yes?
by Focus inwill adam be resurrected?.
focus.
(anti-flipfloppery class)
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"All will be resurrected, now as to whether Adam will recieve "life" or not ... will be determined/announced on Judgement Day.
The same will happen with all those "destroyed" in the flesh such as Sodom and Gomorrah, Cannanites, Edomites, etc. All will stand before the Judgement seat. And the Judge will decide who gets life, and who doesn't."
Peace to you,
AaronWell, at last I have someone to talk to. Are you of the oppinion that God is going to give the Sodomites another chance, or does He just want to torment them and tease them a bit before He "casts them into the Lake of Fire?"
Did God abort the fetuses and zygotes of the little Soda Mite bass turds before taking them to Heaven to await their parent's judgements?
Tell me more of your erudite wisdom. Which side of the Hell fire fence are you on?
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I got my nerve up, gonna try this again!
by LostMyReligion ini first posted to this board as "truman" about 2 months ago.
it was a time of deep depression, confusion, fear, and paranoia for me, as i had just 3 weeks before discovered that everything i had believed for 27 years was only a pipe dream.. everyone was very welcoming, but after only a few posts, i got so afraid i had to stop.
i was fearful of revealing too much, being somehow discovered, and of the possibility of saying the wrong thing, incurring the ire of my betters here.
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Lost Religion says: "Identifiable, quantifiable mind control techniques were being used on us as witnesses. I thought, if the WTS had the truth, would it really need to be enforced by these methods? I kept reading at freeminds and other sites for 2-3 hours, and at the end of the session, it was as if everything I had believed had evaporated in front of my eyes like a mist. I knew I could never view any of it the same. Since then I am online reading everything I can find on the WTS."
You say: "Oh, and don't let the braindead JW defenders here bother you. I'm sure you've already spotted them, as they're far more braindead than your average Witness cult member.
AlanF
Where are these JW defenders here? All I see are intelligent free thinkers who have had enough of false prophecies and doctrines. Even the delusional You Know seems to be condemning the Watchtower.
Why don't you all join me at www.about.com forums and see if we can rouse the few real JWs there?
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WHY THE WATCHTOWER IS DOOMED!
by You Know inisaiah 30:21 is an oft quoted scripture by the watchtower.
it reads: "and your own ears will hear a word behind you saying: "this is the way.
walk in it, you people, in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left.
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<<That is immaterial. If Jehovah foretells that his people are going to discard much of what we presently embrace, and that the light will afterwards increase seven-fold for the faithful, why should I profess to believe anything?>>
That is gobbledy gook and you know it. You do seem to profess belief in Jehovah and La Rouche. So, just tell us; are you a JW? Apparently you can't be a JW in good standing if you "blaspheme" the Watchtower.
You didn't say you are an atheist. Tell me more about your God.?
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What are 5 major beliefs in the JW religion?
by Law inwhat are 5 major beliefs in the jw religion?
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by Abaddon inpain in the ass.... you know everyone, you know reminds me of 'life of brian', do you know that you know?
you know the scene you know, the one in the marketplace with the prophets all blathering on about their individual brand of utter nonsense?.
blood & thunder prophet.
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Speak up man! What or who are you? I bet there are no real JWs here, right? The real JW site will not allow anyone else to even enter their site.
Are we just preaching to the choir?
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Kent, please translate this site for me!!
by sf inhttp://www.the-technique-of-the-demons-of-jehovahs-witnesses.com/.
thx!
skally
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Hi Kent. Give it to me straight; is anyone here a JW? If there are, they surely hide the fact.